On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Relata Refero refero.relata@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
David Gerard wrote:
2008/5/8 Relata Refero refero.relata@gmail.com:
DG, read the rest of the thread.
I did. I really don't see any reason to be running in circles in a panic over this.
Indeed, but there are people in whom the spirit of Senator Joe McCarthy still lives strong.
These would presumably be the same people saying "no witch-hunt is necessary" and "this incident is over"? In which case, I have an article on Joe McCarthy I suggest you read before you take his name in vain again....
I believe both that continued vigilance of all outside issue groups and POV pushers is necessary (a majority will come back), and that this incident has been grossly overblown here on the list.
In perspective with other issue groups over the same time period, CAMERA was in fact low impact. It was a new and unfamiliar one to the circles of on-wiki abuse fighters. But novelty does not excuse hyperbolic reactions.
In a sense this was all a great pity, as CAMERA and Electronic Intifada could both learned some deep lessons from openly coming to the Wikipedia articles and having to deal with NPOV and consensus building with each other. Instead we got this blowup. It would have been very interesting if they'd taken the opposite track and engaged openly.