On 17/03/2008, Steve Bennett <stevagewp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 3/17/08, Peter Ansell
<ansell.peter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
There is very little consensus about people
making a point of having
categories or interwiki links in a specific order or in separate parts
of the document. What ordered metadata can you describe, other than
the example with the comment that is used solely for ease of freetext
editing and could be better defined in a permanent section on the
discussion page? Unless there is any actual reason for wanting to have
one category declared between a template and something else, when
infact the position of declaration is completely meaningless, it seems
like a distraction to talk about it being a lack of consensus.
I'm primarily talking about the crucial issue of whether interwiki
links come before categories or after them. This matters a *lot*. To
some people. It's one of those sort of irrational situations we have
where X is ok, Y is ok, but changing X to Y is not ok. British English
is ok. American English is ok. Converting British to American English
is not ok. Interwikis then categories is ok. Cats then interwikis is
ok. Moving interwikis before categories is not ok.
People argue about the most petty things. As I didn't realise about
the ability to order the way categories are displayed I may be missing
a dependency between interwiki's and categories, or it might just be
people not realising their preference doesn't actually get displayed
differently to anyone elses preference and hence they should just
focus on the meaningful parts of the article.
The issue of the ordering of categories themselves is
probably best
solved by not reordering. Since category ordering affects the visual
presentation, it's not really safe to just arbitrarily reorder them.
I stand corrected, I didn't realise that one could change the ordering
of the categories by declaring them in a different order. I was under
the naive impression that they were alphabetised and output
generically (and that interwiki's did not interfere with categories or
vice versa for that matter)
Peter