Reliable sources? For an episode? Let me think how can
we get that... Hmm...
Hmm... Oh RIGHT! How about the episode itself? Its quite reliable and
verifiable. Each time you watch it it is the same story, same plot.
- White Cat
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Todd Allen <toddmallen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:58 AM, Ray Saintonge
<saintonge(a)telus.net>
wrote:
Todd Allen wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:22 PM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> in fact, there are usually review sources discussing each individual
>> episode. True, only some of them are the conventional published
>> sources that we use. What we need for both the conventional and the
>> nonconventional is editors prepared to track these down, and add
them
>> to articles.
>>
>> We should be writing an encyclopedia such that someone who is
friends
>> with a fan of a series, can learn
enough from WP to be able to
>> understand their interests and understand their conversation about
the
>> events and motivations of the
individual episodes of the
series--not
>> the way a true fan would, but at least
a casually interested other.
>> that a parent, for example, could understand what a child was
talking
>> about without having to watch all the
childrens' series. That's
part
> of
the very purpose of a general encyclopedia--the applicability to
> real life, not just background for the academic study of things.
>
> And if such sourcing does exist, -and is reliable- (e.g., not
> fansites, blogs, forums, etc.), that's well and good. But let's make
> sure we don't lose sight of the reliability requirements here. What
we
> should avoid is "I watched the series
and saw that..." being used to
> support a full article. We can do some very basic, indisputable
things
> from primary sources only, but the meat of
an article should come
from
> secondary, independent, reliable sources.
If we can't do that,
because
such
sources aren't in existence, we shouldn't have a full article,
just a list entry. I applaud people who find sources, usual or
unusual, so long as they're reliable.
There is no algorithm for determining the reliability of a source.
David's example of a valid episode summary was good. We are not
looking
for a series of academic treatises about the
significance of each
episode of "Lost". If a viewer misses an episode he will feel quite
lost himself. Having a good summary available will help keep him in
the
loop.
Ec
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Great. Then (s)he can find such a summary on a fansite.
Or, if we have reliable sources, and only if, on Wikipedia.
--
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