You know.... I, for one, am so incredibly frustrated with this whole
discussion.
OK: you think there are CU issues, fine. Propose a policy. Let the
community give it an up or down.
For the love of G-d, if you think there are issues, FILE A REQUEST FOR
ARB (or better yet, comment on the one that someone else filed)... but
let's not let this damned thing fester.
It's a scab, it's getting picked at, and frankly, it's getting infected.
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Philippe Beaudette
Tulsa, OK
philippebeaudette(a)gmail.com
On Jul 22, 2008, at 9:04 PM, SlimVirgin wrote:
On 7/22/08, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 5:31 PM, SlimVirgin
<slimvirgin(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Why even mention that, Greg? It was long before
the checkuser we're
talking about, and therefore obviously not connected to it. It looks
like an attempt to get yet another swipe in.
I didn't say anything attacking you here, I'm pointing out that fact
that reliably searching through your history is effectively
impossible
because of the uncertainty created by oversight. It's a statement of
fact, not an allegation and not a reason to fault you.
It is not a statement of fact. It's nonsense. Some of my earlier edits
were oversighted. The period you are looking for was long after that.
It's one of several unfortunate side-effects on the use of
checkuser... and one which is irritating here because you're making
claims here which, as far as I can tell are highly revisionist
compared to my recollection of the history... but it's not even worth
my time to perform the searches or dig up the diffs because there is
no way I could tell if they were oversighted or not. The reason I
brought up SBW was not because I was accusing you of misdoing, but
rather pointing out that we know oversights have had a side effect of
also hiding material which was not especially relevant in hiding your
identity but which was relevant in understanding the history of your
interactions.
Brought up SBW? I don't know what you mean. You are just going for
maximum smear, Greg, and while that kind of thing used to bother me a
lot, I have to tell you that it's water off a duck's back now. One
favor Wikipedia Review has done me has been to thicken my skin
considerably, so pray continue.
I have no clue if this was the diff that caught Kelly's attention:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators'_not…
but I'd certainly describe it as atypical and out of character.
If, indeed, WR was hunting your identity at that time I'm sure
someone
can provide a link.
LOL!! Kelly wrote to me today citing that exact diff, so what you do
mean you have no cluse whether it's the one? Kelly now says (this is
the third reason she's offered) that she checkusered me because I had
posted that I was leaving, and that I might go rogue. She wrote:
"Upon review of the evidence, including evidence which I failed to
find when responding to the original complaint, I find that my
original response was not entirely correct. My decision to checkuser
her was related to this edit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_notic…
.
... In any case, at the time it was my evaluation that she was at
risk to [sic] going "rogue" and might come back using sockpuppets
abusively, given her apparent state of mind and recent behavior at the
time. I captured and held her IP address against the possibility of
her doing so. The checkuser also served to confirm that her account
had not been compromised, which was another concern I had at the
time."
The cited diff shows that, directly above my post implying that I
might leave, FloNight also indicated that she would be leaving. Did
Kelly Martin also checkuser FloNight, in case she went rogue? No, she
did not, because Wikipedia Review had expressed no interest in
FloNight's whereabouts.
I doubt very much if an admin (other than me by Kelly) has ever been
checkusered just because they said they might be leaving, lest they go
rogue. :-)
Can you show me any evidence prior to May 31 2006 that would allow me
to see why you would have any justified reason to think that Kelly
Martin might have some grudge against you?
I will look for evidence if I have time, though I wonder what the
point of convincing you would be.
Sarah
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