On 7/22/08, Delirium delirium@hackish.org wrote:
Alec Conroy wrote:
But maybe there's room for "Good work. You got a lot done. We appreciate it. It's probably best for the project if you let the rest of us take it from here".
It's hard to interpret it that way, though. Asking someone not to do X or Y in the future is one thing, but invoking technical measures to literally prevent them from doing X or Y in the future is hard to interpret as anything but "we distrust you so thoroughly that we feel we need to take protective measures through the software against you".
No, no-- you're right. Nobody is really going to be too happy about be desysopped under any circumstances. It's hard to find a way to mend a factionalized community.
That's why, I imagine, the C68-FM-SV case has lasted two months without being resolved. It's all well and good to point out the simpler problems, but as to the deeper issue of the division and faction-forming-- even if you could agree on the facts, it's still not at all clear what the best course of action to take would be.
My only humble suggestion is maybe to ask people to get out of the behavior-control game by honorably/voluntarily retiring them from adminship. Even then, I don't know if it would help-- when you consider the factionalism crisis that George Herbert describes, only a small portion involved the actual use of admin powers.
But certainly, doing nothing DEFINITELY won't help. By my count, the same basic dispute has been going on for about two years now?, give or take? No end in sight.
Alec