Forget NPOV, forget policy. I'm talking about doing what is right.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ad_hominem noun 2. an attempt to argue against an opponent's idea by discrediting the opponent himself
As I am sure this was unintentional, it unfortunate that it was ad hominem for you to link to the discussion then accuse folks that are conducting it "pulling a fast one". In this environment, it is unhelpful and appears improper.
It is proper for you to say things like
-quote- Does NPOV apply to the mailing list now? - end quote -
But the more you do, the less I'll say things like
-quote- " You may not have meant it [canvassing]" And " As I am sure this was unintentional [attacking opponents credit]" -end quote-
I hope it was unintentional that you did in fact do these things.
Regards, Mercury
-----Original Message----- From: wikien-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of doc Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:28 AM To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] A six-day roll-back poll?
NavouWiki wrote:
I'm sure you could have put it another way then you did.
But to link to a discussion, then to say "you feel" like a fast one is
being
pulled, I think was improper. You may not have meant it, but it had the unintended effect of being in the back of my mind when I was evaluating
the
discussion. We have to be mindful that we do not canvass, directly or indirectly. We also have to be careful not to sully people
unintentionally.
..."this one feels a little like an attempt to pull a fast one."
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_a_fast_one
Please consider your wording when linking discussion in the future on this list.
Best regards,
Mercury
I firstly invited the proposers to advertise here themselves, they didn't want to.
Frankly, the timing of the poll with its incredibly short duration, and the dismissal of the concerns when I raised them quietly with the proposers worried me far more than the policy itself. Attempts to create policy in this way look less than transparent.
I was not posting here to "advertise" the poll, as much as to express my frustration and concern at the way it was being conducted.
Am I not allowed to do that? Does NPOV apply to the mailing list now?
Doc
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