On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Raphael Wegmann <raphael(a)psi.co.at> wrote:
cohesion schrieb:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Raphael Wegmann
<raphael(a)psi.co.at> wrote:
Thank you Andrew for your effort. Unfortunately
it doesn't seem
like any of those zealots is willing to compromise. Appeasing
the no-censorship fundamentalists looks like mission impossible.
I don't believe we have to make a concession to censorship to show
that we are thinking about what we are doing. Reasonable people may
disagree. I have thought about my viewpoint at length. I think the
general population sees our decision not to censor Wikipedia not as an
indication that we haven't thought about the issue, but that we have,
and that we have come to the right conclusion. This is reflected in
general talk on the internet, and emails sent to otrs.
Calling us zealots and fundamentalists gets us no where.
Do you feel offended?
No, I was only trying to help reach a consensus.
We might be
able to reach a compromise, but it's not going to be conceding 100% to
what the anonymous web petition wants. Maybe we could educate people
in how to hide images themselves.
Do you want me to educate you, how you could filter my emails?
You probably wouldn't have much opposition in a purely educational
stance, do you?
Honestly. I have real difficulties to assume good faith,
when you consider a show/hide link censorship, because
it simply isn't. And not realizing a widespread disagreement
with those images looks like ignorance to me.
br
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Raphael
Hmm, I don't usually respond to incivility, but why not. I was trying
to offer a compromise, for example a link under controversial images
explaining how they could be hidden. I don't see that the snippy quips
about how I can filter your emails helps promote this discussion.
Also, I find it very hard to believe you can't assume good faith when
there are many people in this thread alone that have stronger opinions
about this than myself. And sending this only to me is just childish,
bullying won't get the results you want.
I'm not responding to any further emails from you, but I certainly am
more prone to support the neutral inclusionist group now that I am
more familiar with the tactics used by the other side. Anonymous
religious petitioners and bullies, or people concerned with free open
information...
Judson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cohesion