On 9 Sep 2007 at 20:11:03 +0000, fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
There has been extensive discussion, although not in a public forum. We have had enough of Judd Bagley and his site.
You decide things in backroom discussions, like the smoke filled rooms of old, and then you get peeved when people claim that there's a "cabal"?
I think there's a pretty big "we" around who's had enough of a clique getting to decide what things the rest of the peons are allowed to see or talk about.
The whole Bagley / Overstock / Weiss / Slim / etc. tangled mess gives off the stench of a thousand garbage dumps, and when there's that much stink around it's hard to tell for sure who it's coming from... but, as Kelly Martin said in her blog a while back, it exerts a pernicious influence on a lot of things all over Wikipedia, affecting article content decisions everywhere from [[Naked Short Selling]] to [[Lutheranism]], and policy decisions from banning policy to BADSITES and its progeny. It may be time for everybody outside that proverbial smoke filled room, everybody not entangled in the personal connections of the clique, to rise up and take back Wikipedia.