John Lee wrote:
On 9/6/07, Rich Holton
<richholton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Nick Wilkins wrote:
>> On 9/5/07, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I am not here to fight with anyone. I have absolutely no personal or
>>> professional stake in any of this. And the idea that I have an agenda
> (as
>>> someone suggested) is absurd.
>>>
>>> Stop flailing at the messenger, and open you mind to the message.
>>
>> The idea that you have an agenda is absurd, Marc? Please do recall
that
> you
>> *posted* your agenda on this topic to this list. As a numbered list
> headed
>> "What I would like to see", no less.
>>
>> In any case, I think that this very thread has shown the remarkable
>> looseness of our moderators. To wit, we still receive your comments,
>> despite your obstinacy in pressing this issue despite having been told
>> point-blank that you aren't going to get any of the things on the
>> aforementioned numbered list.
>>
>> I believe that this is good evidence that this list is emphatically
not
> one
>> in which dissenting voices are quashed, and that this is a good state
of
affairs.
-- Jonel
It's exactly this kind of attitude that makes me nervous. Are you
suggesting that Marc has engaged in behavior that should result in his
moderation? What exactly is that behavior?
No one is forcing you to read, let alone *respond* to any of Marc's
postings. Yet you suggest that he should be moderated because you
disagree with him and/or are tired of the topic.
I am very glad that our moderators have a clearer understanding of what
should result in moderation.
I thought the final sentence of Jonel's email made it clear she (he?)
approves of the present situation, i.e. Marc not being moderated.
Johnleemk
OK. But he calls it "remarkable looseness" that Marc has not been
moderated?
Well, I would say it's remarkable because very few lists have mods as
lenient as this list does. It's almost the word I'd use. I think the context
was unfortunate. But anyway, it's not really relevant to the issue at hand
which is: do we agree with Marc's proposal to loosen the moderation of the
list? How exactly would this proposal work? Vague philosophical handwaving
is not all that helpful - we need a concrete proposal to move forward.
I suspect Marc's proposal is in line with the proposal made by Peter B. not
so long ago - interestingly Peter's proposal seems to have been ignored
though (I think it was tl;dr syndrome).
Johnleemk