On 10/15/07, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 15/10/2007, David Goodman
<dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com> wrote:
We already have a great many user complaints that
admins are
essentially invulnerable. This would greatly increase such
dissatisfaction. We have whatever respect we do have, because any
user can after all make a direct complaint. Making it impossible would
increase the existing feeling of class antagonism.
You're absolutely right. The thing we have to decide is if it's worth
it. We have to so something to fix ArbCom, and chances are, we're
going to make somebody unhappy in the process. We need to balance how
well ArbCom (or its replacement) works with how happy people are with
it - we'll never fully achieve both.
I don't know that happiness matters. My favorite teacher drives me
insane--hardly makes me happy at all until I get through one of his
damn classes and realize I learned far more than I ever thought
possible. I respect him. I don't know him at all, so I can't say
whether I like him or not--but he's a superb teacher, and I also trust
him to know how to teach me.
Isn't that more important that ArbCom earns or has the respect of the
community? Than that they make the community happy? The latter seems
to be the way to set them up for no community support. If their job
is defined well, and they do it well, and they're able to do it well
because the requirements for doing so are not so onerous, then they
will, imo, wind up with the community's support for taking upon
themselves a thankless job. But happiness? How could they provide
that?
KP