On 11/30/07, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 30, 2007 9:54 AM, Wily D wilydoppelganger@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/30/07, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 30, 2007 2:22 AM, Relata Refero refero.relata@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 30, 2007 12:52 AM, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
You don't see any difference between an investigation and a block? Need I remind you that only blocking is an admin action? Need I also remind you that the thrust of Durova's investigation appears to have been that !! was the reincarnation of a previous experienced editor; which, of course, was quite true?
You have completely ignored the tone of the "report", the clear statement that the 'evidence' is a demonstration not merely that !! is a returning editor, but that !! is one of 'them' who share information from a 'playbook' on how to disrupt WP. I can only assume you have either not yet read it, or that you have read it and are still unable to see that most people who read it more than cursorily will understand that the clear implication is that !! is blockworthy.
Oddly enough, while this implication is obvious to you, people who are actually on the list have stated quite clearly that they saw no reason to think Durova was going to block !!, and, apparently, no-one else on the list did either. This has also been the impression of unrelated individuals reading this discussion, in this very thread. It appears that, as I stated before, the view that it is "obvious" that Durova was planning to block !! 15 days after she posted that e-mail is based on hindsight, bad faith, and circular reasoning.
Jayjg, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_El... for why people believe "some 5 other editors" had good knowledge Durova was planning a block.
WilyD, it would be helpful if you were to either disengage from this discussion, or actually read all the posts in the thread. That specific statement of Durova's has been discussed in several posts, and more than one person has said that her statement is ambiguous at best, and in no way indicates that 5 people actually pre-approved her *block*.
Of course, I'm only posting the evidence for people who read the thread to evaluate on their own. Obviously it cannot be expected that everyone will be interested in trying to have an honest discussion of what went on and whether anything further needs to be done to prevent such "mishaps" in the future ... If you'll read what I said, you may notice that I never said *I* believe Durova specifically discussed a block with the five mystery persons. I only said that this is the cause of people's belief, which is not terribly unreasonable, if not demanded by the facts.
Cheers WilyD