charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
What is the actual issue? I think it is that inappropriate speedy nominations are proportionately more of a serious issue than "speedy keeps" at AfD; and certainly more a problem than inappropriate PROD nominations (PROD seems to be applied in a much more reaonable, even way). Of the three processes, the "triage" is at its most serious in CSD. When AfD gets it wrong it is at least after more eyeballs than two, possibly bloodshot.
Nominations under G1, G11, A1 and A7 all can be problematic. Careless use of terms "nonsense", "promotion", "no context", "non-notable" should be deprecated. These are not synonyms with "hard to read", "informative", "obscure topic", "out-of-the-way or annoying to me" (respectively). Basically we need to formulate something that isolates a bit better where things fall down the cracks in the system.
One approach that would cut out some of the worst instances would be to restrict speedy deletion to only: 1) copyright violations; or 2) new articles from the past week. If an article that isn't a copyright violation has been on Wikipedia for two years, surely it can wait another week as a PROD before being deleted, and the "keep up with the torrent of new articles" justification doesn't apply.
This would get rid of the instances (which constitute most of my speedy-undeletions) where an article that's been around for a while, and might even be watchlisted by multiple people, is speedy-tagged and deleted all in the course of about 2 minutes before any of the people who watch it get a chance to notice and object.
-Mark