Just to repeat: the original edits by that IP were not trolling, but relevant contributions to the discussion at WT:SOCK, but put with a directness - not drama - that most of us would have avoided. Of the subsequent edits before he was blocked, I didn't see any 'pushing' of the COIanalyst theory. The most he said was "As a consultant with what looks to be money riding on your participation in this endeavor" to Jehochman, which, as has been pointed out on AN/I, is an unfortunate interpretation that could be made by someone glancing through Jehochman's userpage, if someone hadn't read the subpage in which he addresses those issues. It's precisely the lack of nuance that causes this to be interpreted in the manner in which Guy has which has concerned so many people. This is not sympathizing with disruptive users, this is not seeking to disrupt the project, this is simply a concern that some people are getting so heated that they are losing some of their judgment. So, yes. Under these circumstances I would have hoped for more than "five or ten seconds". I would have hoped for a quiet, drama- and hyperbole-free discussion of whether the IP's edits were block-worthy, and then we could have moved on. That this did not happen was not because of the IP.
RR
On Nov 14, 2007 4:29 AM, Guy Chapman aka JzG guy.chapman@spamcop.net wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:41:12 -0500, "Alec Conroy" alecmconroy@gmail.com wrote:
See, I couldn't disagree more. People need to consider something, mull it over, discuss it over-- they don't just need to be told the right answer. That's the wiki process for you-- there's much talking involved. If you don't want to have your behavior subjected to good-faith oversight, ya ought not be in the game, I'm afraid. 9 times out of 10, everybody will conclude that that everything was fine.
So you say. Me, I call that pointless drama. An anonymous editor (with trolling edits) comes along to push a mad theory originating with a known COI spammer aiming to undermine Wikipedia for his own commercial ends. Hmmmmm. How long should "people" need to discuss that do you think? Five seconds? Ten maybe?
Guy (JzG)
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