On 5/28/07, Slim Virgin slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/28/07, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Would you support the inclusion of a sentence in NPA indicating that
links
to content that meets the definition of personal attacks will be treated
in
the same way as a direct personal attack?
As I said earlier, the problem with the worst of the sites is that practically every link will lead to a page containing a serious personal attack, even if that's not the comment being linked to. It's the site we want to prevent links to, not just particular pages.
The other problem with your proposal is if we equate on- and off-wiki attacks, it would mean we could ban people for off-wiki attacks, something the community has not previously supported. Similarly, the systematic removal of on-wiki attacks is not fully supported.
That is not at all what I said. What I said was that using a link to make a personal attack is the same as making a direct personal attack. That does not mean that the person using the link would have to be linking to their own personal work off-wiki; it simply means that it should be treated in the same way as any other personal attack. It concerns me that, when there is not support for the systemic removal of on-wiki attacks, we should be systemically removing links to any site. Remember that any site can be used to make a personal attack, it doesn't have to be just the big three (or is it four?).
What we are talking about are the sites, not particular attacks.
I'm afraid that's where the divergence is on this particular issue. Some, yourself included, are talking about particular sites. The rest of us are talking about personal attacks.
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