On 5/11/07, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
So an article I started is being AfD'd for notability. So like most responsible Wikipedians, I come here to this list to bitch about both AfD and notability in general.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Invincible_Snow...
The argument seems to go something like this: "There are 30 ski areas in NZ. 29 of them are notable and deserve articles. This one isn't. And doesn't".
The whole concept of notability just seems to be letting us down. Why delete an article which completes the comprehensiveness of a topic, is harmless (ie, is not causing us any headaches), and is not a slippery sope - there's only one of them. I can think of lots of good reasons to delete non-notable articles:
- There are so many that maintaining them is impossible
- They are magnets for spam, defamation and the like
- The people adding them have a vested interest which is constantly
fighting against the neutrality of Wikipedia
- They are poorly written and researched, because serious editors
don't care to spend any time or effort on them
But I don't see how any of those apply here. It's one single article about a single ski area. Surely the interests of comprehensiveness outweigh those of strictly enforcing a controversial guideline (not policy)?
Steve
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Steve,
I have supported the deletion of that article because there are no reliable sources for this snowfields. It is a small ski-fields with no evidence given of any notability. I looked and could find no independent sources. If there are, add them to the article and I will reconsider my position.
The article currently states "*Invincible Snowfields* is a private ski resort near Glenorchyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenorchy%2C_New_Zealandin the South Island http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Island of New Zealandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand. Accessible only by helicopter, it has a single ski tow, and no groomed trails."
As far as the article is concerned, you would be better off looking for sources to base an article on than coming here and complaining. Generally skifields have plenty of media articles about them and have associated communities. This seems to have none.
Regards
*Keith Old*