On Jun 25, 2007, at 2:22 PM, SonOfYoungwood(a)aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 6/25/2007 1:22:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
Snowspinner(a)gmail.com writes:
No, it's time for fiction notability to be consigned to a graveyard
and never spoken of again.
Fiction articles, on the other hand...
I don't follow.
Notability isn't a helpful concept here. It's certainly not the most
important thing about fiction articles, which is why [[WP:FICT]]
pointing to a notability guideline is so egregious. Notability
guidelines are inevitably messy, ugly attempts at bright line
distinctions.
Fiction articles badly need a lot of cleanup, but notability
guidelines are not a helpful way of approaching this problem. Better
would be to aggressively slash and re-stub articles that violate
[[WP:WAF]]. I'd happily join in on an organized WAF purge, hitting
fiction articles and eviscerating the in-universe stuff, replacing as
needed with short out-of-universe stubs. And I've proposed (to
varying levels of opposition) things like
[[Template:FreeContentMeta]] as ways of encouraging better places to
put out-of-universe material.
But a notability guideline isn't helpful here. Better to aggressively
begin fixing crappy fiction articles on clearly notable topics,
instill an ethic of what a good fiction article is, and then start
targeting the silly things.
THANK you. This is the type of unhelpful guideline that only serves to
encourage people to delete well-written, interesting, and useful content
from Wikipedia because they personally don't like it.