What about a "WikiProject adopting articles
by new users" (possibly a
subdivision of WP:ADOPT)? The members could categorise articles in something
like "Category:Articles by new users" and template it appropriately so the
article doesn't get instantly deleted, and we might just attract many more
new contributors. WP is way too complicated with its millions of policies
and Notability criteria already, and too much anon good faith edits are
marked as vandalism or reverted without further comment.
(I made this up in a few seconds so don't flame me too hard if this idea is
ridiculous ^^)
-Salaskan
2007/6/21, David Goodman <dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com>om>:
In addition to keeping articles from good editors, we need to find a
way to encourage the keeping and improvement from those less skilled,
and teaching them in the process.
On 6/18/07, K P <kpbotany(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/18/07, Andrew Gray
<shimgray(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 18/06/07, K P <kpbotany(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sadly adding new topics becomes not a drive to add them, but more
time
> > spent trying to keep them, then it
takes to actually enter and write
> > them. (...) Inappropriate deletion creates time, it diverts
people's
> > energies from what interests them, what
brought them to Wikipedia in
> > the first place, and forces them to "save" articles that should be
in
> > Wikipedia.
>
> I know I only ever seem to reply to you when you talk about
> deletionism, but it occurs to me I've never brought up my experience.
>
> I spent a lot of my on-wiki time of the first half of the year
> churning out a large set of stubby "framework articles" on various
> topics; nothing remarkable, a couple of sentences each and a reference
> and some categories. I was, at times, turning out ten an hour. A lot
> of them even *I* consider borderline significant - we're talking
> "obscure Victorian statutes" here.
>
> I got one nomination for deletion - a mistaken speedy from someone who
> was confused about a disambiguation page (well, duh, of *course* it
> had no content). Looking through the list I keep in userspace, maybe
> three have been nominated for deletion, and two were kept - the third
> was a decision I don't agree with, but it fit with an existing line of
> consensus dating back quite a while. One got politely queried - so I
> explained thier significance better - and one got merged into a larger
> page, where it was arguably more useful anyway.
>
> So, you know, there's my anecdote, just to balance all these tales of
> woe. I'm running at maybe 1% of articles challenged for inclusion, and
> only a fraction of those removed. Maybe I get deference (but I doubt
> it); maybe I just have the knack of making things look "right" in
> their first draft; maybe my working hours are less 'dangerous' than
> yours. But I don't meet a piranha tank of deletion; I create and
> watchlist and forget, and they sit there for months.
>
> --
> - Andrew Gray
> andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk
>
I haven't started a lot of articles, maybe 30-50. But many are single
line stubs. I haven't had any of them put up for deletion, even the
single liners that no one else has ever edited (after one of my
stalkers copyedited, of course). The pictures always get edited
(although my image editor is currently on vacation), and they often
get categorized, and they get linked to, because they're organisms
that get linked to their family or families to their orders or to
their phyla or divisions, but they don't get prodded or AfDed. I did
start some as an anon IP also, and none of those were deleted.
KP
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