Ray Saintonge wrote:
Steven Walling wrote:
I think that a presumption of no AFD deletion for the same policy reason is a great idea, but not across the board. If someone brings up an AFD for a new reason, it should be eligible. But definitely not for the exact same reason infinitely. That's the problem that is going on as we speak for Conservapedia. Some new user is disregarding the results of the previous three or four AFD's and is once again saying it doesn't meet the qualifications for inclusion that were exactly the same as the AFD's that resulted in Keep. Preventing AFD's on the same policy might also work to make nominators be more clear about referring to policy in their reasoning for deletion. - VanTucky
You underestimate how resourceful determined people can be when they are looking for new excuses to delete something. If there are multiple reasons for deleting something the proposers should put them all on the table right from the beginning, and not dragging the community painfully through a one-by-one seriues of excuses.
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I'd generally tend more to say "Anyone who cannot accept that consensus could conceivably change on anything, any day, and that no decisions are final, probably is working on the wrong project." Don't necessarily like that sometimes, but I really don't see it being changed or [[Wikipedia:Binding decisions]] getting made into policy anytime very soon.
That being said, I -would- like to see previous discussions on a matter considered when someone starts a new one. If strong consensus was already at one point reached on something, no one's saying you -can't- overturn it-but you'll need an even stronger consensus that it hasn't worked and it's time to change or overturn. If no consensus forms with the new discussion, the status quo is left intact.
(Of course, this presumes we don't go with Slim/Tony's well-intentioned but truly awful "All Wikipedians are equal, but some are more equal than others" proposal.)