Just a note... On the Dutch Wikipedia, fair use is not permitted, but in the
album template there is a parameter which one can use to link to the album
cover on the English wiki.
version of the page). I personally agree that Fair Use is
inappropriate for a "free" encyclopaedia when it says it permits people to
reuse it, but that doesn't really matter in this case. I can understand that
most people who read the Dutch Wikipedia are Dutch or Flemish and thus are
even less likely to be able to reuse the content than visitors of the
English Wikipedia are, but still, it's quite weird. The servers are hosted
in Florida and technically the wiki has nothing to with the Netherlands
except being Dutch-language.
Salaskan
2007/6/18, Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net>et>:
b m wrote:
(lagging behind because im new and being
moderated)...anyway, the
reference
issue IS being discussed on the Dutch wikipedia,
but it just doesn't
catch
on apparently.
I'm glad to hear it's being discussed. If it doesn't catch on,
that's
the way things are.
As for copyrighted images...did wikimedia ever
contact the 5 largest
media
conglomerates and as nicely if they could use
their copyrighted images
(album covers, movie posters) in wikipedia? If necessary watermarked to
prevent them being used as illegal covers? Most media are controlled by
few
companies, surely it could be done to get
permission, it's in their
interest
too to have more exposure and info about their
artists and such.
I can't say for sure that anyone has tried such contact, but it wouldn't
surprise me to hear that some have done this on their own. The interest
of the company is probably best served by stonewalling and refusing to
answer such questions at all, even when the answer is obvious. They, or
their legal advisers, know that anything that they say could be
embarrassingly brought into evidence in some future case that may have
nothing to do with the current request. Someone who is refused could
argue, "But you allowed this for Wikipedia." These companies do not
want to put loose canons on the deck
I mean, what's an article about "Abbey
Road" or "Dark Side of the Moon"
without the album cover....?
We Dutch read articles about music without seeing album covers or other
copyrighted media, that's a bit of a shame, because describing it and
seeing
it are two different things altogether!
English does this through fair use policy. Dutch Wikipedians could do
this, but that's their decision. In many respects the media
conglomerates can be seen as satisfied by the application of fair use to
achieve the exposure that you mentioned. As long as the usage of
material, such as album covers, comes within what they accept as fair
use, they can sit back and do nothing without committing themselves.
This leaves open the option for them to act when _they_ feel that the
fair use claims have gone too far. They are not likely to complain
about most low resolution reproductions of album covers. Even with the
more rigid fair dealing rules of the European Union, I can't see them
taking any action. It only gets tricky when the government feels it has
a right to prosecute with or without the support of the copyright
owner. To repeat it's really up to the Dutch to decide what sort of
risk management policy should be followed there.
Ec
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