On 05/07/07, zetawoof zetawoof@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/4/07, Mark Gallagher m.g.gallagher@student.canberra.edu.au wrote:
zetawoof wrote:
It's for the exact same reason, just in reverse: If an apparently good-faith contributor is using an anonymizing service like TOR, it's impossible to detect that they're also trolling (or whatever) from their actual IP.
But we don't use checkuser to detect that apparently good-faith contributors are trolling or sockpuppeting or whatever. We use it in an attempt to confirm that apparently bad-faith editors are.
Hear, hear. "I hold in my hand the names of 205 administrators who are also trolling as IP addresses!"
If I'm a troll/puppetmaster with different accounts from this IP, you have no way of knowing ... because you have no reason to check. Zetawoof seems to be proposing that we check all users to ensure they aren't running multiple accounts[0]. Zetawoof's Wikipedia is not a Wikipedia to which I would wish to contribute.
I'm not proposing any such thing. There is, in fact, already an "implicit checkuser" in place for such situations, in the form of the autoblock: blocking an account will also place a temporary block on the IP address they last edited from, which serves as adequate protection from good hand / bad hand sockpuppetry. What I was pointing out was that allowing TOR makes this existing mechanism entirely ineffective.
I know it isn't entirely inline with guidelines but what about editors who do edit controversial articles with a second log-in? They are good editors who just don't want controversial articles showing on their contrib log. mike