The Cunctator wrote:
On 6/29/07, James Farrar james.farrar@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/06/07, Todd Allen toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
"Seems like a minor stylistic preference. Some have {{who}} determined that a blanket ban on any unsourced statements with weasel words, such as the following, will have far greater impact:"
Really though, I think the {{who}} in midsentence does help to illustrate exactly where the problem/weasel words are. Most of the time, "some argue", "others think" and the like with no sources or attribution are a thin cover for a personal editorial.
Which is, as I understand it, the reason that [[WP:AWW]] exists in the first place.
Just edit the freaking sentences, already. I do adore the irony that Allen's sentence in support of the {{who}} tag used the "some have determined" construct.
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Sometimes, I don't -know- who said it. Sometimes, I can't find any indication that anyone at all said it, but it seems at least plausible and isn't anything nasty or potentially harmful, so I'd prefer to flag a problem rather than remove immediately. (If it's implausible or potentially harmful, of course, it just gets taken out with "Source it please.") So how specifically am I supposed to "just edit the freaking sentences" with anything but a tag? Take a wild guess as to who it was?
(In response to the other bit, the sentence I quoted with "some have determined" was said earlier in the discussion. I stuck the {{who}} tag in it when I quoted it because I found the irony amusing too.)