On 1/14/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
geni wrote: IOW you support indiscriminate inclusio.
Not exactly. I don't support say radom party photos. However scans of historic documents are worth includeing.
The action of The Borg is justifiec because it is gentler than that of The Daleks.
Daleks don't appear in star treck.
You want them to have more?
Giveing a choice between not includeing information and have more people dislike us? Well it is irrelivant we passed the point of no return on that one somewhere around 28 January 2006.
Some do so ethically, and some don't. Whether any of them are acting legally would be a different question. The loss that the original host may suffer is an intangible one. We strip them of their competitiveness.
Who are they competeing with?
When they produce material, and we scoop it all we are telling them that their effort is not important.
No we tell them we like it so much we want to include it.
We care only about their end result. This strikes me as a powerful disincentive to further efforts on their part. A major university is more likely to take that in stride than an individual who has poured his heart into his efforts.
And if we don't take it the person feels ignored and gives up.
One common practice that I have observed in the software industry (and others as well) is the tendency to let the little guy expend the risk capital needed to bring an idea into reality. If the idea fails it's his loss. If the idea succeeds Big Co. can pay handsomely for the results to insure that it does not have to deal with this innovator as a competitor. This process saves Big Co. the need to fund risky ventures.
I've been uploading map scans before the university did. Sure I can't match the qualitity or historical importance but we got there first.
We are not offering payouts. But we need the little collaborator as much as he needs us.
Little? the university will have 100 times our budget what defintion of little are you useing here?
His survival is an integral part of our mission.
Universities are unlikely to go anywhere any time soon.
Following a policy of taking just because the law says that we have that right is not the way to build a collaborative environment.
An not takeing because of unsuported worries about giveing offence isn't a great way of progressing. Did the university ask the original authors of the maps?
You confuse morality and ethics.
Nyet you do.
Circumscribing ethics into a "system" imposes an undue restriction on them.
Asking that something be internaly consistant is not an undue restriction.