On 28/02/07, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
especially over deletionism vs inclusionism, but I can't think of any (except trolls, of course) who assumed the other party was acting in bad faith. That's the kind of respect I'm talking about.
Look at the reactions to schoolwatch.
Look at what invoked it. They formed into an organised group as the only way to deal with evidently contemptuous mass-nominations of school articles.
When AFD formed factions in this manner, it was evidently a deeply broken process. Two years later, it's an even more deeply broken process. There's gotta be a better way. More than that, there's gotta be some resolution of the deeper assumptions.
It will not fix itself, because a group is its own worst enemy and will not change from within. It will resist change from the outside, on the assumption that they're so busy and vital that any outside interference must be assumed negative until absolutely proven otherwise. (A good example is how AFD resisted changing the page from one single multiple-megabyte slab of HTML until the devs said it was actually causing noticeable performance problems all on its own.)
Shut AFD for a month. The article load will be negligible compared to the daily firehose of crap, and we can do without the poisonousness inside and outside the project.
- d.