I did not send "8 messages in a row." I sent updates, when new developments happened.
I see that the "moderation" system put them in all at once, and I got eight "your comment is being moderated" notices at once.
Since you obviously do not care about systemic abuse, feel free to just not read my emails.
On 2/17/07, Gwern Branwen gwern0@gmail.com wrote:
Please do not send *8* messages in a row. If you must write so much, consider consolidating messages into, I don't know, something less than a power of 2?
Incredibly rude to other readers of wikien-l. I hope you get put on moderation for this; maybe then you will learn the difference between uses and abuses of email.
"Samuel L Bronkowitz" countpointercount@gmail.com writes:
One of the abusive editors who was involved in the false accusations has
now
decided he has the right to remove unblock requests from my talk page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACountPointercount&...
This is beyond abusive by him, but as I am seeing from the treatment I
am
receiving, too typical of how wikipedians behave.
"Thanks" for nothing but the abuse you have now heaped upon me.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Samuel L Bronkowitz countpointercount@gmail.com Date: Feb 16, 2007 1:08 PM Subject: Fwd: I have a problem with CheckUser as administered by
JPGordon
To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
One final update: Yamla, who I note has a long history of
rubber-stamping
abusive blocks, has done so on my request for unblock.
I must consider this systematic abuse by administrators at this point.
I will consider my options carefully, but you have done nothing to prove
to
me that Wikipedia is worth any contribution any more. You have likely
lost
the contribution of a 3+ year veteran, and I will probably start going
in
and removing articles I have previously contributed. You have no right
to
them any more.
"Thank you" for nothing but abuse. It has really shown me what Wikipedia
is
about and how worthless it is.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Samuel L Bronkowitz countpointercount@gmail.com Date: Feb 16, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: I have a problem with CheckUser as administered by JPGordon To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
The bad "discussion closed" code has now been placed around the new discussion: one ReyBrujo "restored" the template to the wrong discussion thread due to the hyperactive bot which removed still-ongoing threads
from
the page.
This is a big problem, people trying to close off discussions relevant
to
Wikipedia and to the actions of Wikipedian editors and administrators without answering the concerns being addressed.
I have no idea whether my questions are actually reaching the list,
either.
This is most disconcerting.
I am requesting an answer, but having received none, and having now seen
how
Wikipedia's administrators are more than content to let abuse of this
sort
go on with no answer, I am 90% certain that I will be leaving Wikipedia.
I
will not make things worse or vandalize articles, but I cannot say that
the
thought of doing so did not cross my mind. As I travel quite
extensively, it
would be very easy for me to acquire a new IP address every time that I
go
somewhere and damage Wikipedia a little bit just for the fun of doing
so,
since constructive editing and the right to defend myself against basely false accusations are being denied me.
Since I have apparently not had any of your time, I shall not thank you
for
it in this missive any more.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Samuel L Bronkowitz countpointercount@gmail.com Date: Feb 16, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: Fwd: I have a problem with CheckUser as administered by
JPGordon
To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
This has also had the unintended effect of SERIOUSLY messing up the
page, as
it appears every thread below it is "archived" due to the bad coding
left
behind on the out-of-process closed discussion from earlier as well.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Samuel L Bronkowitz < countpointercount@gmail.com> Date: Feb 16, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: Fwd: I have a problem with CheckUser as administered by
JPGordon
To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Additional issue:
It appears someone's bot is doing damage, removing threads that are not remotely irrelevant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noti...
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Samuel L Bronkowitz countpointercount@gmail.com Date: Feb 16, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Fwd: I have a problem with CheckUser as administered by
JPGordon
To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
I am filing one more update. I do not know if any of these will get
through,
but I am trying my best.
I have filed a request for Unblock as noted in the blocking notes page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACountPointercount&...
I also must note that, now that I am blocked, there is constant posting
of
libelous statements about me to the earlier discussions. It seems that
now
that JKelly has abusively blocked me, a large number of people wish to ingratiate themselves somehow by piling on.
It saddens me that this is the atmosphere of wikipedia. I may very well simply leave, for this is showing me a bad side I had not seen before,
and
Wikipedia is fast becoming something I do not wish to be a part of if
this
is the true feeling and mentality of the editors here.
In sincerity, Thank you for your time.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Samuel L Bronkowitz < countpointercount@gmail.com> Date: Feb 16, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: I have a problem with CheckUser as administered by JPGordon To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
I wish to update my earlier message; the two users who filed this
CheckUser
request are now spending quite a bit of time making false charges at me
at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden... third has jumped in who is just making accusations over and
over.
I find this highly unfair, as I have no relation to any of this or the
pages
in question beyond my stated opinion that administrator and editor misbehavior has occurred and that the case's resolution was not
conducted in
proper respect for policy and civility.
User JKelly has now acted on these false accusations and banned me from editing, as well as defacing my user page with a Scarlet Letter
harassment
token.
You can see my edit history for yourself. I have not done anything bad
to
warrant this kind of abuse, yet I have received it from multiple users
and
at least one trigger-happy administrator now, as well as one
administrator
willing to completely misrepresent CheckUser results.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/CountPointercount
This comment was left, but I'm now unable to respond in my own defense thanks to the abuse by JKelly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noti...
This is blatantly unfair practice. Since JKelly and other abusive administrators and editors are more than willing to behave in this
manner, I
have no choice but to come here for redress.
Thank you for your time.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Samuel L Bronkowitz < countpointercount@gmail.com> Date: Feb 16, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: I have a problem with CheckUser as administered by JPGordon To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Hello,
I've been editing Wikipedia for quite a while, but decided to make an account recently and signed up. I continued my normal editing (mostly
typo
and fixes on random articles, which seems to be a way to find a lot of
your
mistakes) but noticed a problem on the Administrators' Noticeboard and
left
my opinion there.
A user included me in a CheckUser for speaking up on the issue. They
accused
the user PSPMario, who seems to have edited only on the Playstation 3
and
Playstation Portable articles, of being a sockpuppet of someone after he reported two users he suspected of being a sockpuppet.
I find it a very bad precedent to immediately accuse someone of being a sockpuppet, for trying to report a potential problem themselves. I find
this
equally problematic to say that "identical additions of info" happen
when we
give users the tools in difference comparison to easily copy content
from an
earlier edit to a later edit. PSPMario says he was replacing something
he
saw that was missing when he returned to the page, and I believe him, because there is no reason for me not to believe him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden...
The result of the Checkuser came back as "likely."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/RunedChoz...
I am not sure what this means. I know I am no sockpuppet, and given the writing style of PSPMario, I am reasonably certain he is not a
sockpuppet
either.
I do not know when we started using weasel words for CheckUser, which
ought
to be a yes or no answer, but this sets a very bad precedent for abuse
of
the CheckUser system. Additionally, we have users trying to get everyone they can blocked, no matter what their edits or edit history, based on
the
results of weasel-worded RFCU postings.
This situation is a detriment to Wikipedia.
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