On Dec 9, 2007 8:38 PM, Will Beback will.beback.1@gmail.com wrote:
Thomas Dalton wrote:
Are we more concerned about a list intended to improve Wikipedia than
we
are about a list and forum used to harm Wikipedia?
There are things we can do about Wikipedia mailing lists and Wikipedians. There is nothing (or, at least, very little) we can do about Wikipedia Review. They are completely independent and can and will do whatever they like. The only way we can do anything to stop them is by legal action (I haven't investigated the matter closely enough to know if they've done anything worthy of such action).
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If folks are planning to harm or disrupt Wikipedia then obviously that effort should be resisted rather than ignored. From Blissyu2's comments it appears that WR's secret mailing list has many subscribers, and apparently every member can read the members-only forum. If Wikipedia users see disruption being planned then it would be helpful if they'd report it either to the community at large or at least to folks who can do something about it.
Will Beback
Will, without being offensive here, I am hesitant to consider Blissyu2 as a very reliable source. Though I have no doubt "stuff" is always going on at WR, the mere fact that they "indefinitely blocked" him some time ago casts a shadow of a doubt on everything he says (just as a similar Wikipedia action casts a shadow).
And I am serious about the issues of "privacy," there are several prominent Wikipedians even as I speak editing on a proposed policy that would essentially forbid any type of copy posting of messages from "private" emails, websites, mailing lists and other documents - and thus would make such information unshareable with the community as a whole. In fact, I believe you were one of them, Will. Perhaps you should reconsider your position and add that to the discussion.
I'll also point out that there are several prominent Wikipedians who have membership there, including at least three current Arbcom members and several administrators. None of them have reported concerns to the community as a whole.
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