Please stop playing the aggrieved victim, Jay. You've been a strongly partisan editor on pages relating to Israel for quite some time, and you've played a prominent role in the near-complete degeneration of civility on the pages in question. Protestations of innocence aren't going to fool anyone, at this stage.
CJ
On 8/2/07, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
This seems like a particularly unwarranted personal attack; I'm surprised it wasn't moderated.
On 8/2/07, Steven Walling steven.walling@gmail.com wrote:
Nope, Jayjg is a rabid editor on Israeli subjects all on his own. No
paid
lobby is required.
On 8/1/07, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/2/07, Hello all wikipedian51@gmail.com wrote:
The point is there is a concerted effort by an organization funded
by
the
Israeli foreign ministry to manipulate wikipedia.
Moreover, when Hasbara Fellowships asks people to "join the team" I
read
it
as indicating not that a team of POV-pushers is about to descend on wikipedia but that they are already here and have been for some
time.
Anyone even casually familiar with articles on Israel, the
Palestinians
and
their conflict has seen concerted POV pushing and edit warring by a
small
group of editors and it's completely logical to assume that some of
these
editors are with Hasbara or some other pro-Israel lobby group.
It's also quite logical to assume that a more skilled lobbyist
trying to
manipulate and influence wikipedia would learn how to play the game
and
rise
to a position such as Admin or higher and use his or her position to
his
employer's advantage.
The clear leader of the pro-Israel group of editors on Wikipeida is
Jayjg,
an admin who has been "reminded" or "admonished" on several
occasions
for
edit warring and an admin who recently got another editor, PalestineRemembered, banned based on a false accusation.
As a security precaution shouldn't we be asking Jayjg to state
whether
or
not he is associated with Hasbara Fellowships, AishHatora, AIPAC or
any
other pro-Israel lobby group? Given his track record of edit warring shouldn't someone review his use of Oversight and CheckUser to
ensure he
hasn't used these features for political reasons? Should someone who
has
been warned, "reminded" or admonished on several occasions for edit
warring
continue to hold these administrative positions indefinitely without
review?
If it comes out that Jayjg is Hasbara Fellowship's "team leader" on wikipedia or is associated in some way with an organized and funded
lobby it
will be yet another scandal of essjay like proportions that will
shake
confidence in Wikipedia. We should take preventative measures now
rather
than look the other way and let the media uncover our skeletons for
us.
Hi User:Shia1. I'm not sure how long you plan to keep flogging this conspiracy theory; you've been trying to get someone to bite since late June, I believe. For the record, I'm not associated with or paid by any pro-Israel lobby group, including Hasbara fellowships.
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