Guy Chapman aka JzG wrote:
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 23:24:21 +0200, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
I disagree that there is any community consensus here.
Really? I would say that there is pretty strong consensus that off-wiki harassment and deliberate outing of editors' real identities, both of which are activities in which Brandt freely admits he has engaged, are utterly unacceptable.
Yes, of course there is a consensus about THAT. I didn't mean that we have no consensus about ANYTHING.
Did you not know about these activities, or the editors and admins who have abandoned their accounts and/or the project as a direct result of Brandt's activities?
Yes, of course I know about it.
What I meant is that there does not seem to be any consensus about the idea of unblocking him now as a part of a negotiation process to get all those bad things stopped. Some have been critical, and have given good reasons. Others have been supportive, and have given good reasons.
The question of whether a particular good faith gesture in an effort to create an atmosphere of good will which may lead to a more favorable outcome for both sides will actually WORK or not is a valid question, of course.
--Jimbo