On 4/10/07, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com wrote:
Do you think this decision was fair?
Well, once you consider that many people opposed Danny for enforcing policy, not explaining why he resigned his adminship, etc., and take them out of the equation, it's pretty apparent that the numbers are in the room to promote for 'crats - and that's assuming we want the 'crats to behave as cold, calculating machines and adhere to those silly strict numbers rules we've come up with.
Do you really think that the voices of all
those who opposed should be ignored, just because they're (in your opinion) "morons"?
Well, the sad fact is, the decision to promote is a black and white one, not grey. If you look at the decision in zero-sum terms, you might say that "the voices of all those who opposed" were ignored - but if he had not been promoted you can say with equal, if not more, indignation that the voices of all those who supported were ignored.
Let's not look at it in zero-sum terms. Danny's learnt that there are a lot of people who have valid concerns about how he has wielded his blocking powers in the past, and that he may be BITEing the newbies a wee bit too much (to say the least). I hope he takes these criticisms into account and learns from them, because I personally feel that AGF and BITE remain relevant, even in the face of spammers.
Of course, there's a chance Danny may end up totally disregarding these concerns. But knowing Danny, it's doubtful that he'll do this. Danny cares too much about the project and the community that's got it this far to ignore valid concerns they may have about his conduct, and how it helps or hurts the project we all love.
If you use reason, and disregard the "of course
Danny should be an admin" gut feeling (that can be your opinion of course, but it doesn't allow you to go against consensus), then I think the decision is clear.
We'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't agree with those who have expressed surprise and/or indignation that anyone could have the gall to oppose Danny's RfA, because there are valid and real reasons to have qualms about him being an admin, but even then, on the balance, there is a consensus to promote once you take into account the fact that many opposers are opposing for totally or near-totally invalid reasons.
Johnleemk