On 11/30/06, charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com
I'm not trying to rid enWP of lists, though in a sense they have to some extent had their day. Their functionality is still much superior to categories, in some important respects.
The logical way to combine their functionality would be to put the hand-ordered hand-annotated list in the text section of the [[Category:...]] page. But no one seems to do this, least of all on commons where the ambiguity over pages and categories is a real nuisance.
Steve