Delirium wrote:
Raphael Wegmann wrote:
geni wrote:
On 5/28/06, Raphael Wegmann raphael@psi.co.at wrote:
Laws in the country, where I live, limit free speech. For example it is forbidden to deny the Holocaust.
And if that prevented us from writing about holocaust denial then we would have a problem in your country.
IANAL, but I don't think that this law would prevent me from writing *about* Holocaust denial, as long as it is clear, that I don't deny the Holocaust myself.
The same should IMHO apply to the J-P cartoon article:
There's no problem to write *about* insulting cartoons and the controversy following it, as long as we distance ourself from the publishing of the cartoons by i.e. moving them one click away instead of re-publishing them as we do right now.
Indeed the law doesn't prevent us from doing so, which is why it isn't a problem for Wikipedia (whether it's a good law or not is another matter, but one that doesn't affect us). But your suggestion of not publishing the J-P cartoons isn't analogous to what we do with holocaust denial at all. Our articles *do* republish statements, cartoons, posters, and other material denying that the Holocaust occurred, as part of a general encyclopedic treatment of the subject. The article would be quite a bit worse if we were prohibited from republishing any material that could be considered Holocaust-denying, and had to just talk about it without showing any examples. I would say the same goes of the J-P cartoons.
Are you serious? Why do you think we have a separate article called Holocaust *denial*?
We don't merge those articles and state in the intro:
Supporters of the Holocaust theory have described it to be the end product of the Nazi anti-Semitic policy and argue that the Germans deliberately killed between five and six million Jews.
Critics of the Holocaust theory claim that the Nazi government had no policy of deliberately targeting Jews and deny that over five million Jews were systematically killed by the Nazis and their allies.
Instead we even state in the "Holocaust denial" article, that Holocaust denial is generally considered an anti-semitic conspiracy theory.
Yes, Wikipedia publishes anti-Semitic cartoons as well, but they are published on the article about "anti-Semitism" resp. "new anti-Semitism". I wouldn't complain about publishing the J-P cartoons on the Islamophobia article.