phil, there is no concensus, you know that, i know that, and there are many references to emails on this list where administrators are not supporting an indefinate ban. Because it would go against the wikipedia project to ban newbies who rush in with all enthusiams, and little knowledge of how wiki works. All that wasted enthusiam.
From: Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] my week ban - which is now an indefinate ban again Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:13:28 -0700
On May 24, 2006, at 2:37 AM, andrew.j.norman@ntlworld.com wrote:
Um, that's what the listserv is for.
Yes, but it will be more "official" if it was recorded on Wikipedia. Also this (putting it up on WP:ANI) is the practice that seems to be more common. It's just a request, given the somewhat disputable nature of this block.
I've put a suggestion on WP:AN for a process to quickly confirm community bans and allow for review. I agree with Prasad that this sort of thing needs to be done on Wikipedia itself. We need a rapid, open and fair method for ensuring that community bans have genuine community support, and it seems to me we don't really have that at the moment. Once an admin's decided on a community ban, the only way that can currently be overruled is an appeal to the arbitration committee, or the start of a wheel war.
There are countless administrators on the listserv already. If we need to find a consensus among admins, we don't need to go to AN because we've already established it here.
-- Philip L. Welch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Philwelch
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