On 5/15/06, Philip Welch wikipedia@philwelch.net wrote:
On May 14, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
Heh, ok, but by "what's the lesson", I mean, in what way, if any, should Wikipedia consider changing its policies considering there is now such a big payoff for people adding vanity information.
*shrug* Just need to enforce CSD more stringently, that's all.
Philip L. Welch
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Vanity isn't a valid grounds for deletion at any level let alone speedy deletion. As an admin, I would look at a speedy nomination on vanity as follows:
a) if it is a non-notable biography or otherwise appears to meet speedy deletion criteria, delete it;
b) if it doesn't appear to meet speedy deletion criteria but doesn't appear notable and/or verifiable, I would propose it for deletion or list it at articles for deletion depending on how likely I think it is that people would vote to keep it.
c) if it appears notable and verifiable, through what links here and a Google search keep the article and improve it or flag it for improvement.
I wouldn't delete it on vanity grounds as it is not a valid grounds for deletion. The problem with vanity articles is that they generally do not meet notability and/or verifiability criteria. If the subjects of these articles do meet such criteria, they should not edit the articles under NPOV. We also need to ensure that the article is not written in such a way that it gives an unduly negative impression of the person.
The criteria for speedy deletion limit the capacity of admins to unilaterally delete articles without proper process which in my view is a good thing. As someone who looks at speedy deletion articles on a daily basis, the criteria for speedy deletion are not as well understood by many people who nominate articles.
In general, our policies are strong enough to keep out articles without merit once we become aware of them.
Regards
Keith Old
Keith Old
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