On 05/05/06, Sigvat Stensholt sigvats@mi.uib.no wrote:
a) Most people will abandon "nn, delete" reasoning and seriously consider good arguments for inclusion if someone throws a strong argument into the debate.
What if the keep argument is made at the end of the voting period? It's obviously the great weakness of AfD that discussion and voting happens simultaneously - votes can take place in ignorance of intelligent arguments subsequently made.
b) We have a number of inclusionists on AFD who more or less reject the notion of notability anyway and will vote to keep articles on all roads, streets, schools and churches.
I think it would be in the project's interest if we could define a set of exceptions to "notability" on the basis that comprehensiveness in certain areas is more valuable. Most people would probably agree that every university in the world should have an article. However by definition, once you include "every" anything, you include "non notable" examples.
In other words, I don't think every subject should have to be notable, if it has another reason for being included.
c) Most people are loathe to delete well-written articles, even if the notability is dubious.
That's a major problem. Perhaps if we change the emphasis from "deleting it", with its connotations of purging it from the surface of the earth, to "moving it out of Wikipedia"?
Steve