On 6/16/06, Mark Gallagher m.g.gallagher@student.canberra.edu.au wrote:
We've gotten to the stage where processes that *don't exist* are cited by wonks.
Don't you love it when things come full circle. Policy is meant to refect what is done. If it doesn't then policy is in error. At least that was the theory back when I was first involved. I understand things have changed a bit.
Now, process wonks who insist we follow process regardless of the sanity of doing so are irritating, but they obviously have the best interests of Wikipedia at heart, and, provided they receive the proper therapy, can even become quite likeable people eventually. There's no excuse for saying silly things like "nobody may remove the speedy tag; use {{hangon}} instead".
Just an extension of the "don't undo unjustified speedies use DRV instead" that people keep trying to tell me.
The problem is not that old users (admins or no) aren't keeping up. The problem is that new users aren't bothering to get acculturated.
They are not doing things the way they were done in our day. I know the feeling.
I already *know* how Wikipedia works.
That is a mistake. At best I would claim the have a rough idea how wikipedia works but any attempt at a solid theory generaly gets falsified when presented with the evidence.
I help keep it running practically every day. So do most of the people on the list. And I don't appreciate some newbie who *doesn't* coming along and saying "you must do it this way, and I should know, because I'm not a newbie like you".
Bunch of arogant know it alls who are not prepared to accept that no they don't know how things are done. Yup sounds like the next generation to me. Just wait untill they start turning up on arbcom and the like.