I think this loophole is a clear argument for WP:DRV to make decisions based only on process, not on content. If it's not consensus-based, we can't have the decision to delete be made there.
SCZenz
On 1/29/06, Tony Sidaway f.crdfa@gmail.com wrote:
This is an interesting one. An article "List of state-named Avenues in Washington, D.C." was listed for deletion recently but kept because of no consensus. Someone thought "dang it, AfD is supposed to be a discussion, not a vote", and went to Wikipedia:Deletion review (DRV) to try to overturn the result for what he thought were weak arguments to keep.
Well that's all very well, but DRV (perhaps uniquely in all Wikipedia forums) does not operate by consensus but by majority vote. So it looks to me like we've got a possible loophole where someone dissatisfied with an AfD result can go and have the article deleted anyway on a straight majority vote. As it happens a lot of people who looked at the article in DRV thought it should be deleted (which isn't unusual--it's part of the culture in DRV)
So, I thought I'd give a second AfD a go. If the first AfD wasn't clear enough, let's try for a second. I accordingly relisted the article for deletion, explaining the circumstances and recommending keep.
Six people promptly said "keep".
Whereupon someone involved in the attempt to overturn the first deletion discussion and delete the article "unlisted* the article from AfD.
This is quite a quandary.
I've no doubt that this fellow is acting in good faith and genuinely believes that we cannot have a second AfD while the first is being reviewed, but I cannot see why not especially if (as seems here) it's clarifying that yes, Wikipedians really do want this article to be kept.
However he's not really granting good faith, is he? He's removed the second AfD listing. I restored once but I don't edit war so I'm not going to get into that stuff.
So I turn to you, dear readers.
How am I to ensure that, if this article is deleted, it is only deleted on the basis of consensus? _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l