On 12/12/06, Guettarda guettarda@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/06, Parker Peters onmywayoutster@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/06, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/06, Parker Peters onmywayoutster@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/12/06, Luna lunasantin@gmail.com wrote:
Ehh. If someone's *constantly* leaving and coming back and making
all
sorts of drama over this sort of thing, I might be more inclined to
exlore
that
option. But in terms of an indefinite fits-all-situations policy,
I'm
not
too fond of the idea. I figure good contributors are entitled to a
certain
amount of drama and temper tantrum, now and then.
Well, maybe "entitled" is a poor word choice. But if somebody
solves
more
problems than they cause, in the long run, I'm personally willing
to
tolerate breakdowns and depressions.
Just my ramblings on the matter. Dissect at will, -Luna
MONGO: I lost count. Slimvirgin: at least 3 instances, one of which was "if you don't ban
this
user I'm leaving." FloNight: at least 2 instances.
I'm sure I could hunt down others, those are just off the top of my
head.
Having WP policy be that we punish people for what they say in discussions, other than threats and personal attacks and the like, is a bad
thing. No,
let me restate that more emphatically - it's a horrible, terrible
idea.
We've already stretched the definition of "personal attack" so far that I'm opposed to that being a valid reason to "punish" someone.
I agree with Luna; while not always necessarily desirable, it's a common and
fairly normal human response to extreme frustration to let off steam. It's not hurting us to let people do it. It may be irritating you, but
that's
not by itself a reason to take official action over it.
They should be desysopped for violating [[WP:POINT]] after the second or third occasion anyways, because it IS highly disruptive.
Parker
Don't be ridiculous. Saying "I will not stay here if PersonX is allowed to return to editing" isn't "disrupting Wikipedia to make a point". Why should anyone tolerate the unblocking of a particularly vicious troll who has been harrassing them? Trolls should not be tolerated. If someone unblocks a troll who has stalked and harrassed a valuable editor, the victim of the harrassment shouldn't be punished.
Trolls and stalkers are disruptive. People pointing out that the community is not doing enough to protect them against trolls and stalkers are notdisruptive.
When there is a serious ongoing discussion and people have a serious difference of opinion with you, and other respected editors are saying that the person should not be banned, then YES this IS serious disruption.
Parker.