I'm sorry you think I was being intimidating. My
goal is certainly not to
shame those who participate in trying to reduce bias into no longer doing
so.
On 12/6/06, Puppy <puppy(a)killerchihuahua.com> wrote:
I found his statements well considered and well
written. I did not read
it that he was chastising anyone who had not, indeed, demonstrated the
very bias and intimidation which has led to this discussion. The only
"tone" I saw was not turning a blind eye to the hostile actions of
others - and this, more than anything else, can help to shame those who
participate in such activities into no longer doing so - and the problem
goes away - which is, after all, the ultimate goal is it not?
-kc-
Kat Walsh wrote:
On 12/6/06, Phil Sandifer
<Snowspinner(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Allow me to briefly put my gender privilege to
good use
I wish that you had. Instead, some of your antagonism and rhetoric
were only pouring gasoline on the discussion, and your
characterization of the positions taken by those you've singled out
seems at best mistaken. Casting those you see as your opponents in an
unfairly negative light damages your own side and your own
credibility.
The question of whether a single-sex list is 1) needed and 2)
appropriate for Wikimedia to host is a valid one. For discussion by
everyone. Its existence does *not* affect only the women; it affects
the whole community. (Those women who would at the present time like
to discuss the issue in a more private forum can do so -- and have
done so.) So I would like to hear discussion from everyone it affects,
including you -- but if you're not going to raise the tone of that
open discussion, don't join it. Which applies to everyone, including
several others in the many spawned threads, but particularly those who
would otherwise claim to value respectful discourse and consideration
of others' needs.
-Kat
--
"I am not a pretty girl / that is not what I do / I ain't no damsel in
distress / and I don't need to be rescued / so put me down punk" - Ani
DiFranco, "Not A Pretty Girl"
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