On 04/12/06, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
That being said, I don't think it's for us males to demand that the womenfolk open up their new clubhouse to us. If it is the right thing to do, I do believe that initiative can and will come from the group itself.
I don't see what's wrong with the community determining what official clubhouses there are. I object to this divisive and discriminatory list as a human being, not as a man. When I contribute, I do not think of myself as a "male contributor", a "homosexual contributor", or a "student contributor" and fail to see why any of these aspects should deny me access to particular areas of discussion.
If the real reason for this list is the level of aggression on this list, then make the list based upon that aspect. I'm sure there are many non-female contributors who object to some of the aggression on this list.