--- jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
[[WP:3RR]] is policy, and you didn't make good faith efforts towards ensuring that policy was met on this article. You were given many opportunities to revert yourself; practically begged to do so, but you insisted you would not. *You* managed to get *yourself* blocked.
Translation: We use 3RR in tandem, so as to cleverly avoid tripping 3RR and then we like to tattle on the opposition really quickly, so that they get blocked and then we win the (edit) war. Its not "harrassment" or "POV tag-teaming" if its a policy loophole - Its fair game.
Now that thats understood....
I've requested an {{unblock}} as this block was neither justified nor preventative (I clearly stated that I'd stopped editing on the article hours ago and haven't since).
This appears to be on the up and up. I know quite well the nature of two, no \ three aspects of this case... the topic, two core people opposing Netscott, and the subjective usage of 3RR as an edit warring too.
Some links: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_anti-Semitism&action=histo... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ANI#New_anti-Semitism_and_WP:NPOV_concerns http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_anti-Semitism&diff=7170310...
You stated you wouldn't edit the article so that you would not be forced to undo your violation. You were quite defiant about it.
Defiance is a notable property of you two as well, so its odd that you both use it and decry it. It then becomes a simple addition problem to figure out how much defiance there is on either "side," at a particular point 1/1+1...
Blocks like this prevent people from violating 3RR in the future; otherwise they think they can continue to get away with "I've reverted 5 times now, and I refuse to revert myself, but I promise I won't edit again for 24 hours" nonsense.
Entirely false representation of 3RR as a punitive.
3RR is simply a way to slow down reverts and force discussion. By not directly engaging in actual problem-solving, as you two have become habitually accustomed to, and then using policy lawyering to block people for 3RR, you are essentially using 3RR as an edit warring tool. Hence you are adhering to the letter of the policy, while entirely circumventing its spirit. And of course every little edit has to become an intense operation with you two.
What, putting an unblock request on your Talk: page isn't good enough for you? It's back to this list again any time you find yourself in conflict?
And there is something wrong with that? In addition to supporting the misreprestation of sources, you denounce the use of Wikien? And then you have the nerve to cry "defiance, defiance, defiance."
Anyway, Bastique, the admin who was so offended by the image in question that he twice deleted it from the page altogether, has now reduced your block to 24 hours. I'm sure the former has nothing to do with the latter.
Oh of course, 'We're the angels - *they are the POV trolls.' Its so simple. 'We never collude and mix our roles as the supreme guardians of NPOV with our roles as administrators.' No, of course not.
Its sad, too because this... confusion between roles is not limited, and probably a just as much a factor of wiki's growth entropy as it is an opportunistic attempt at POV-pushing policy-lawyering.
-SV
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