On 4/24/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/23/06, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/23/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
A brief block is not the end of the world. If it
drags on for a
lengthy period then it's something else. And yes, the first admin
executed their best judgement when making the block; that's what
admins are supposed to do. If a second admin disagrees with that
judgement, then they need to take it up with the first admin, rather
than initiate a wheel war with them.
Jay.
Pulling a block is not initiateing a wheel war.
Actually, it is, by definition.
No. I have done something to try and fix something. They have decided
to take responcibilty for the problem and try an different fix
If I initiated
a wheel
war every time someone pulled one of my blocks we wouldn't be haveing
this conversation now.
If someone pulled one of your blocks, then the wheel war has already
started. How you respond, of course, is up to you.
No. The first "wheel war" to recive wide attention would be the one
involeing trying to inforce a 3RR block on an admin. There is a world
of difference between that and someone pulling a 3RR block because
someone contacted them by email. In any case you have just accused
some fairly widely respect members of the old school admins of "wheel
waring".
Allowing the revsal of admin actions is just a logical extension of
[[WP:OWN]].
WP:OWN is about articles, not actions. This is not a "logical
extension". A more logical extension would have to do with not
reverting.
No. You do not own articles. You do not own blocks . You do not own
page protections. You do not own deletions. You do not own your
f****** Mediawiki namespace edits. You're a wikipedia admin. Your ego
can go hang and it is about time you started wearing toecaps.
Most revsals of
admin actions don't result in any problems
thus it requires less rescources to do whatever and then deal with any
screaming afterwards.
Yes, and reverting someone using the admin revert button also requires
less resources, and you can deal with any screaming afterwards.
Jay.
Rollback does not give you a comment box. Unprotection and unblock does.
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geni