On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:17:13PM -0700, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Matt R wrote:
Kelly Martin kelly.lynn.martin@gmail.com:
On 4/20/06, Matt R matt_crypto@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Kelly Martin kelly.lynn.martin@gmail.com:
That does not excuse reversion without discussion. Even taking as an assumption that Danny had been acting on his own behalf, Erik's actions could easily have been the start of a wheel war, and were inappropriate by any reasonable standard.
Yet, equally, that does not excuse the indefinite blocking of a Wikipedian in good-standing.
Except he wasn't an Wikipedian in good standing; he had attempted to start a wheel war.
What you are arguing is untenable. Even if we agree with your interpretation that Erik was starting a wheel-war, an indefinite block was not an appropriate reaction by any reasonable standard (to use your phrase). We kick people off the project in a limited set of circumstances: when it's clear that they are hindering us more than they are helping us. Danny, for all the good work that he no doubt does, did the wrong thing here. For him to acknowledge this in a public forum would be reassuring.
Danny's silence in this series of threads has been very loud. He, more than anyone else, is in a position to quell the flames with one short post.
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I am not an administrator and have only been around since the last day of October last year. I have been on this list for a few months because I like to understand what is going on in some detail. Naturally I have wondered about whether I should at some point aim to become an administrator. What is going on here makes me think that I would need very strong persuasion indeed to even consider it. Basically one should not have to put up with what Erik has had inflicted on him. Now of course I have no problem with the OFFICE block and I do not disagree one little bit with what Jimbo has said recently, but neither he or Danny have given even a hint about why Erik's block was justified or apologised if it was not. We do not want or need the full story, but we do want a hint. Administrators are volunteers. The mushroom principle should not apply here (keep people in the dark and throw shit over them).
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