Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Crappy prose isn't the main "quality" problem.

That's not true. They both allow for attributed POV and analysis. "Respected scholar John Doe has said that the impact of Pepys on future literature is incalcuable, and at least 20 books per decade are published on him." ..and so forth would be perfectly in line with NPOV and NOR. What would not be appropriate are unattributed, "universalized" statements of value, but there's nothing in NPOV or NOR which says that all value statements whatsoever should be stripped out of articles. And if the hypothetical statement above is only half of the story, it is easy enough to add a line of "Though some other scholars, such as Jane Doe, think that he is often overrated, pointing to his lack of intersubjective hyperbolity in his later work" or whatever the case may be. We can push viewpoints, if we identify whose viewpoint it is and we give them and other relevant viewpoints their own representation in a neutral and attributed way. We just can't push *our own* viewpoints.