On Tuesday, October 4, 2005, at 02:31 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Tony Sidaway wrote:
Ashida Kim may be a popular author, and we should note his books, but we don't need to host his interminable catfights.
And if he _is_ a popular author, we ought to be able to find some evidence of it. (Finding isbn numbers in amazon for admittedly self-published books is not sufficient for me personally. There's nothing wrong with self-publishing, but if I'm interested in notability, I'd want some sort of external verification.)
--Jimbo
Yeah - just remember that AfD isn't a one-time process. Often with all the mirror hits and whatnot wikipedia gets it makes it difficult for people to verify what's real and what's not (this applies to every subject, especially original research).
The Ashida Kim nomination is a good case. If someone looks at the last VfD it was nearly to keep. Now in this one it was initially all to keep, then the regulars like myself began to come in, and now as you see the deletes are starting to pile on. Probably won't result in that though - one of the things is that a lot of people don't change their vote much (I and some regulars do though), so often a subject has to be renominated a few times before there is finally a consensus on the issue, as many times it finally gets deleted mostly because the people who voted keep in the last discussion see the "new" arguments there (it would be either if they kept a close eye on the conversation though).
So, it works more or less... sometimes it just takes a few tries for either deletion or keeping :). Its not perfect though :.
Thanks, Ryan
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