Tony Sidaway wrote:
On 10/3/05, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
How did the deletion period get reduced from 7 to 5 days. That seems far too short, especially considering that many other deletions still require 7 days. A _minimum_ of a week seems most appropriate.
An interesting observation. Actually I had no idea that it was ever longer. I wonder if it was reduced as the old double-transclusion version of VfD became unwieldy. If so, in theory it could be changed back, or even doubled.
But in practice the maximum lag time for an article (days between nomination and deletion) is eight days at the moment, and it has been much longer at times.
And from closing debates, my experience is that articles that don't get much attention in the first day or two aren't likely to get more over the current five day period. But if neglected listings (say four people or fewer in five days of discussion) are then relisted they tend to get more attention. So extending lag time would probably have minimal benefit and other methods of improving exposure are available and are fairly commonly used.
The rules governing this process are a complete maze to work through, to the point where very little of it means anything anymore. At [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy]], under the heading "Lag times" all other types of deletion (except speedy) are shown as having seven or eight days lag times.. The ichange was under discussion between May and July. See [[Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion/lag time]]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Votes_for_deletion/lag_timeAt the rate that changes take place there it could have been snuck in at any time without it being noticed.
Your observation of what happens makes sense. Something that is not noticed when it appears on RFC will get a free ride into deletion whether or not it has any value.
So I've enterred a debate on [[Open Season (2006 movie)]] which User:Fvw and User:Android79 insist on speedy deleting without any discussion. The former went so far as to delete the talk page to suppress discussion. When these newbies get a little power as admins it goes to their head.
I got involved when someone wrongly added it to Wiktionary and I moved it here with a few improvements.. In any event I know of no policy to delete short articles on movies in production as long as they are verifiable, which this is. This is obviously the kind of article that will grow with time.
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