Personally, I'd like to see an example of an admin repeatedly harrasing a regular user failing to be put before arbcom.
The only ones cases of admins before arbcom I can remember are those who were accused of harrasment by people who repeated inserted nonsense into articles and were reverted.
However, I'm sure my mind is foggy with regard to the history of arbitration, so if anyone can provide examples, I'd happily read up on it.
--Mgm
On 6/1/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
From: BJörn Lindqvist bjourne@gmail.com
Total Bullshit. That has been done many times by new users who was harassed my some overly aggressive admins. Ofcourse they never suceed because the rules are complex and setup to protect the administrators.
No, the rules are set up so that admins can only be sanctioned for doing things against policy; new users often seem to think "disagreeing with
me"
or "not putting up with my POV edits" is against policy.
No, the rules are set up so that admins are protected from all complaints. Admins often seem to think that new users seem to think that "disagreeing with me" or "not putting up with my POV edits" is against policy.
Sigh. Can you leave the "I know you are but what am I" type comments off the mail-list please?
some kind of verdict AGAINST the admin in question? Well, then you'll forever be known as a troublemaker/troll and the admin will be quickly forgiven by his or her peers because "he/she is a good guy" and only made a mistake/got played by the trolls.
Can you give an example of this happening? Arbcom sanctioning an admin,
and
the person who brought the case therefore being viewed as a troublemaker/troll?
Umm... It has never happened, so obviously I can't.
Then how can you claim it as fact?
But you can yourself search the archives to find countless examples of how mistakes and harassments by admins have been brushed off as "everyone does mistakes sometimes".
Can you provide some of those "countless examples"?
And also of countless number of examples in which users have been branded trolls for brining up valid complaints against administrators.
That they were valid is solely your opinion.
For a very clear example see the OP's post, who even found it best to post anonymously, and then was outed by two admins who don't like him/her.
Didn't like him, or didn't like the smears he was posting anonymously? I don't know what makes you so sure it was the former.
Jay.
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