--- Michael Turley michael.turley@gmail.com wrote:
That's a pretty nasty accusation you've thrown there, Daniel. (That my opinion is counter to the very goals of the project.)
My point still stands; that our purpose is to create something useful with an emphasis on the usefulness part. Having too much meta data in otherwise decent articles vs on talk pages goes against that because that just gets in the way of *reading* the article. Only if the particular article needs extra help should we emphasize the development aspect. Prominently-placed 'Edit this Page', 'Discussion', and 'History' links will still be there for those that are interested.
I value the process of content generation over THIRD PARTY use of that content, not over first party use. As I already mentioned in the part you cut off, I also value third party use of the content, but NOT EVER AT THE EXPENSE OF first party generation and use of the content.
Using talk pages for talk and info *about* articles that are not sub-standard (stub, badly organized, and/or POV) is the purpose of talk pages. That is why talk pages exist. Having those meta data in articles hurts the usefulness of the content *right here* on Wikipedia as well as making it unnecessarily hard for third party reuse or our own reuse for making a print and/or CD/DVD version (I have been told that getting rid of editor-related messages was a huge chore that needed to be done to get a German DVD ready).
This is the last email I'm sending to you on this.
-- mav
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