MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote:
On 12/11/05, Tony Sidaway f.crdfa@gmail.com wrote:
But undeletions as well as deletions should be proofed and
checked by the community before they happen.
Seldom works like that. Anyone who thinks that AfD is the forum most conducive to assuming bad faith should spend a couple of days reading Deletion Review. We do have an undeletion policy, but deletion review is conducted in an atmosphere where any attempt to quote that undeletion policy on the page is repeatedly reverted.
I agree, DRV is making it quite hard to get valid stuff undeleted, but if one allows just two people to agree on stuff like this I expect a lot of deletion wars. Addressing people ignoring the need to undelete when new evidence is presented in DRV seems more useful to me. Have you got any particular case in mind?
That you are able to recognize that it's difficult to get things undeleted is important progress.
The agreement of two people to undelete does not imply that the undeletion will necessarily be permanent. Under the right circumstances it could be deleted again, and two new people could undelete it again, but my guess is that very few articles would go through the entire cycle more than twice. The deletion wars that you anticipate may be there shortly after a two person undeletion is passed, but will likely tail off within a month or two when the policy has had a chance to stabilize.
This is not about any particular case. Policy designed to fit a particular case is usually bad policy. Either side can choose a case that best supports his view, and it becomes a straw man in support of issues that have nothing to do with the case.
Good policy reflects the way that people do things; it recognizes that there is no need for enforced policy when the normal operation of human nature gets us there anyway.
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