I tell you guys what I'd like, and what I'd be perfectly happy w.
How about we put this case on hold until after the "elections", or whatever. That will give Nobs a chance to ruin or redeem himself (so you can ban him for a month or a year/lifetime as appropriate). It will also force Cberlet to interact on a civil basis ''before'' the case is over. And it will give an end to any complaints of impropriety. It strikes me as an "everybody wins" situation.
Sam Spade
On 12/5/05, Sam Spade samspade.thomasjefferson@googlemail.com wrote:
I am making a very specific accusation: Due to a long history of conflict with myself, JAYJG has no ability to be neutral in this case. His lack of recusal is far more striking than that of Fred Bauder. Both of them, along w other obvious concerns (Kelly Martin) makes this case a very bad precedent regarding recusals.
Sam Spade
On 12/5/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
No, Fred, he's making a much broader accusation; in fact a series of broad accusations unsupported by any evidence.
Jay.
From: Fred Bauder fredbaud@ctelco.net
He is referring to my disclosure that I may have briefly encountered Chip Berlet when I was in the National Lawyers Guild. I did not recuse on that basis as there was very little if any actual connection between us. I don't think membership or even active participation in the National Lawyers Guild forms a basis for recusal as there are a number of reasons why people join the National Lawyers Guild and participate in it. Other than involvement in legal work there is absolutely no test for membership. Successful participation is another story. I soon found out that since I did not support the Gang of Four I was considered chopped liver.
Fred
On Dec 5, 2005, at 10:57 AM, JAY JG wrote:
Please don't try to re-direct the questions, Jack, and please don't try to make them about me. You made insinuations about the Arbitration Committee, please clarify. I'll repeat the questions:
- Do you think that the Committee is trying to "purge right wingers"?
- Do you imagine that there are no "right wingers" on the Committee
itself? 3. Why would you insinuate that Cberlet is any more the "friend and colleague" of members of the Arbitration Committee than are any of the other parties to the case?
Jay.
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