I have some trouble understanding this. But ok, mediation doesn't work. This actually is no surprise. The reason mediation works in the real world is that going to court is a real bitch. Folks here may justifiably calculate they have little to lose and if they want to "play around" read "troll" play games really, no harm no foul.
*Once the Arbitration Committee set itself up, it immediately dropped even the pretense at arbitration and constituted itself as a panel of grievance hearings with independent power of adjudication.
That is what abitrators do, decide disputes and render judgements. Comparing us to a "panel of grievance hearings" injects a practice from labor relations which contemplates a sort of appeal to an employers. I wonder what you thought arbitration was supposed to amount to.
The only logical thing to do is to rename the Arbitration Committee into something more close to what their actual role is, and rename the Mediation Committee into the Arbitration Committee, and give it live ammunition. What do I mean with live ammunition? I honestly don't know! Anything the current "so-called" Arbitration Committee can bear to part with...
Ok, Maybe you want them to be able to impose short bans, protect pages... What?
Fred
From: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen jheiskan@welho.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: 10 Mar 2004 16:48:42 +0200 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Root and Branch - it's the only way.
Let's review where the Mediation/Arbitration system currently stands in practice:
*The genuine custom for mediation is somewhere between zero and zip. *Mediation is requested as a method of trolling. So far only once successfully.
*Mediation is requested and once it starts, one or both of the disputants will insist on behaving as if it were arbitration. (This has happened more than once, but which cases, I will not disclose)
*Once the Arbitration Committee set itself up, it immediately dropped even the pretense at arbitration and constituted itself as a panel of grievance hearings with independent power of adjudication.
Where do we go from here?
Well, the first thing to acknowledge is that this how it was always going to go, no matter what we might have wished. Reality is a harsh mistress.
The only logical thing to do is to rename the Arbitration Committee into something more close to what their actual role is, and rename the Mediation Committee into the Arbitration Committee, and give it live ammunition. What do I mean with live ammunition? I honestly don't know! Anything the current "socalled" Arbitration Committee can bear to part with...
J-V Heiskanen (Formerly Cimon Avaro on a pogostick - RIP) _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l