I think much of the worry about Red Faction is fairly justified, especially considering that their membership is a virtual who's who of problem users, as well as their tendency to try to swarm on various issues. It should also be noted that User:Editing Saddam Hussein (Better known to the world as Lir) did his work under the red faction banner.
That's not to say that I think RF poses any sort of meaningful "threat" - simply put, they're kind of too scrawny to be worth worrying about. But I think that they make a pretty good bellweather. That is, if you don't have time to form a full opinion on an issue, you could do worse than looking at RF's opinion and voting exactly opposite them.
-Snowspinner
On Jun 12, 2004, at 6:58 PM, N.T. Riche wrote:
Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com wrote:
What the hell is up with this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Plato/red_faction
Wikipedia breaking up into factions is a very, very bad idea.
Also, comments from IndigoGenius like:
"Father of the Fifth World movement, thinks Jimbo is brain dead and deserves the death penalty; not a job editing (I mean deleting) the ideas that will change and save our world! God made a mistake when he made Jimbo!!"
are not at all acceptable and should be deleted on sight and the user who wrote them blocked from editing.
JRR's mention and link to [[meta:Regime change]] (a page mostly written by banned user 142.177) along with many other 142-written meta pages elesewhere (such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JRR_Trollkien/Troll ) indicates that JRR and 142.177 are one in the same.
This type of crap should not be tolerated - and yet it is. I am fearful that our open and trusting nature is making us a haven for tr olls.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
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You really shouldn't worry about it. I allow anyone (pretty much) to edit my red faction page. Even though you might worry about the communist overtones, it is not a wiki-communist organization. It was created for those users who need wiki-love and they don't get it. Now I never knew that 142 wrote that page which provides a rather interesting insight into who Jrr is but it is still not enough proof to convince me.
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